Beyond the Horizon

Interview Transcription: Elizabeth Whitney and Cobra

Recorded by Skype in Point Reyes Station, November 16, 2013

Elizabeth:  I’d like to start our conversation with a big overview of the Fukushima situation, largely because so many people here on the west coast have expressed a lot of anxiety about it. There was something in our paper today from one of the columnists about not eating seafood. If you could give us a little different perspective on that situation, how it happened and what’s going on now and what the prognosis is, that would be a very helpful way to introduce where you are coming from.

COBRA: This Fukushima situation is a creation of the Jesuits. [Cobra means a small faction of the Cabal within the Jesuits representing about 10% of the Jesuit community.] The reason they triggered this false flag event was they wanted to exert pressure on Japan to get more funds for their operations. It is interesting to know that this event happened on March 11, 2011, which was one day before Uranus entered a new 84 -year cycle. So the moment of this was chosen according to astrological constellations. The second purpose of this event was to put more fear into the general human population because the vibrational frequency of fear is the frequency that allows the controllers to maintain control over the human population. I would say that most stories about radiation are exaggeration. I have seen reports of actual measurements of radiation exposure in California and they are not above normal. Everything is as it was before the Fukushima event. So this is a short overview of the situation.

E: When you say this event was created as a retaliation or blackmail, it is hard to absorb that this kind of thing is going on and we don’t see any news about it or investigation or signs of it going on.  Is there a way that we can become more conscious of the actual facts of how these things play out?

C: Most of those pressures are happening behind the scenes and of course they will not be reported in the mainstream media. There are some reports in the alternative media about it, but not much.

E. Also, you’ve said that after what we are going to talk about as the Event, there will be help, extraterrestrial help, in cleaning up the radiation that exists there. I wonder if you want to talk that a little bit about that and even describe what it would be like to have this kind of participation.

C: After the Event, and especially after the first contact, the positive extraterrestrial races will use their technology not only to remove excessive radiation from Fukushima, but to actually restore ecological balance throughout the planet. One of the top priorities will be to remove radiation and various poisonous substances from many nuclear power plants in other locations around the planet, not only Fukushima but also Chernobyl and other locations. They will then continue with restoring the ecosystem of the planet and it will be quite a fast operation in human standards. After the First Contact, in a few months, the situation on the planet will be much, much better.

They have advanced technology. Of course, they have complete control over matter so they can actually disintegrate all harmful substances in a matter of seconds. It is not a problem for them. It is just a matter of humanity having the right consciousness and understanding to accept and receive that technology. That is why the Event needs to happen first, the removal the Cabal needs to happen first, so the Light Forces can then use the mass media to educate the human population, so when these things do happen the human population will have an understanding and also an active participation in that purification process.

E: So, the Event, which we can begin to talk about now, really is the clearing of the resistance that is within us, through these implants and through this programming, to even imagine this scale of operation and to be emotionally ready to consider that this is an evolution of our own consciousness rather than an outside, kind of overwhelming, influence. Is that a good way to talk about it?

C: Yes. One of the main factors in the Event will be the education of the masses, because the reality on this planet is so much beyond what is currently being portrayed by the mass media, so human beings will need to have some time to integrate this vast shift of perspective. This will happen especially because it will be done in a positive environment and in a positive environment human beings have a very fast learning curve.  It will not be that difficult for most people to accept the reality of those changes. It will be far more difficult for people to comprehend nature of the controlling forces that were controlling humanity and their actions in the past. This will be the most dramatic part of the learning process and it will be very emotional.

E: OK, I can certainly imagine that. I am wondering what preparation we can make preceding the event. We’re anticipating it, we’re learning about it…How can we begin to help integrate this information and share it in ways that don’t alert everybody’s skepticism and so on? You are perfectly aware of the climate of receptivity that exists to some of this information here. What is a good way to look at building a foundation in which it can happen?

C: O.K.  It would be the best to start with the financial system, because almost everybody on this planet is aware that something is wrong with the current financial system. There is a group of I would call central bankers that control the financial situation on the planet. And I think most of the people will be willing to accept that as a fact. We can start from there.  From that point we can educate people on the nature of that control and that it extends beyond the financial system, because the same group that controls the finances controls the mass media and controls the whole information of humanity. We can go from there. So we can then begin to educate people that there are also good forces on the planet that are working to counteract the plan of those controllers, actually to liberate humanity, and the Event is actually the culmination of their plans.  And of course it is quite natural to understand that their plans were secret in the past because it is a war between light and dark. And now we are getting closer to the actual liberation itself, that we are getting closer that to the final victory, more and more of this is becoming public. And there will be evidence when the time is right.

E. Even now, are we beginning to see some previews of this in some of the things that are happening politically? Are there some signs that you can point to that are already in our news?

C: Most senior government officials on the planet are aware that something is going on. Most of those people are aware of the so-called Eastern Alliance. It is not just the BRICS countries. It is actually an alliance that has its aim of reshaping the future of the planet, restructuring the financial system and getting rid of the Cabal, of the controlling forces. You can see the political actions in many countries on this planet “estio mons” — speak volumes. You can see people are beginning to respond to this new reality. Countries are adapting to this new reality by aligning against the Cabal, aligning against the controlling banking system, creating alternatives all over the planet. For example, Brazil announced the formation of the new independent Internet…encrypted emails for every Brazilian citizen. This is something that is happening right now. Many things like this are happening all over the world right now. This is because the awareness of the citizens is arising and also people are aware that something will happen and they are preparing for it.

E: And how do you see this being played out in the American political system? Do you see some signs that Obama and some of the other light workers in power are feeling more confident that they can proceed, that some of the constraints that have plagued them are being lifted?

C: The most dangerous faction of the Cabal is located in the United States. The tension between the light forces, which are present inside the government structure everywhere, and the dark forces, which are also present in the United States government structure everywhere–there is a very strong internal tension right now which can be felt. But nothing is coming to the surface because those scenes are happening behind the scenes. Elsewhere in the world you can see many changes. But the United States will be the last country on the planet where those changes will happen, and when they happen in the United States it will be the moment of the breakthrough. Because it is the turning point. The United States is the key trigger point for the Event to happen. When you see changes in the political system of the United States, then you know it is time.

E. Is there is a reason why the United States had taken this role of the turning point? Is it because the Cabal has been more entrenched here?

C: Yes, I will explain. It is a historical process. Many souls who are incarnating in this time have chosen to incarnate in the United States. Many of the brightest souls have incarnated in the United States in the span of the last 150 years. In response to their light, the Cabal had to put their strongest control there to prevent a breakthrough. This has been the focal point of this planetary struggle between the light and dark for the last 100 years at least. When the breakthrough happens, it will happen through United States.

E. When you talk about the war of the light and the dark, was this an inevitable way that this change had to come? Were there circumstances somewhere along the way that shifted us into this high drama version of how we would make an evolutionary change? Will we have a perspective on this at some point — why it had to go through this traumatic cycle?

C: For most of humanity, it is happening much easier than it was expected. It is because of all the action of light workers that this transition is not as rough as it could be. We have avoided a third world war, which was a possibility, but not any more. We have avoided drastic planetary cataclysms also. None of this is going to happen. Yes, there is some discomfort, there is some struggle, but if there would be more awareness, there would be less of this. The amount of struggle is in direct proportion to the lack of consciousness and awareness.

E: Then the control of the media, something I observed in my lifetime–the deterioration of responsible media–what I have noticed is that this conditioning through this disinformation is very, very strong in the sense that it has given people no bearings to try to sort out who is telling the truth. I feel that the way you have presented some information, by coupling this with the meditation practices and other ways to get people more connected to their own ability to choose between alterative ideas of what’s going on… Is that how you also see us, struggling to find ourselves emancipated from having outside authority always telling us what is going on and getting more direct connection to truth? So that we can hear truth and go, “That’s true. I don’t know why but I know it.” Is that kind of a goal of our own consciousness?

C: The key is to go inside for guidance. Inner guidance is key. I would say intuition coupled with highly skilled rational mind that is not blocking the intuition but is supporting and working together with intuition. That can get you much further than the mass media or any other external information source. As you already said, most of those sources have been compromised.

E: Yes. Let’s go back to your role. It seems to me that you have come forth as a voice of clear information and, of course, a lot of things you have revealed in your interviews and so on are fascinating and mind-boggling. Could you begin by talking about what your perspective is on this planet and your place in it and how you have even evolved as it unfolded? I think people are going to be fascinated by you and then by others who may come forward with their stories.

C: At this point I am the spokesperson for the Resistance Movement, and I did not become that by choice; actually it was a result of my life situation. Many years ago, I was attacked by the dark forces when I divulged certain information, certain intel, that was obviously…some people reacted quite strongly to that. I didn’t know that at the time. I was protected by the Resistance and they gave me some instructions and this led to a long cooperation. At this point I am representing them on the surface of the planet. I like to do it because those people are my brothers and sisters–they are my only family. Basically, I would say that my position on the surface of the planet is temporary. I am not going to stay here forever. I am just going to be here to fulfill my mission, to complete my mission, and then my path goes beyond the surface of this planet.

E: You call yourself Pleiadian. I don’t know what that actually means. I don’t know what that identity literally describes.

C: Every soul begins its life path its evolution path in the center of the galaxy–in this galaxy or some other galaxy. Then it goes from one star system to another to gain experience. My soul, my own presence, my major experience was in the Pleiadian star system, so most of my energy signature is Pleiadian by origin. The only difference from most people is that I am aware of this.

E: We all have made this kind of a journey, too, though star systems?

C: Most human beings that are present on the planet have been created in this planetary system, but there are many who have come here to this planet from other star systems, most of them to raise the vibrational frequency on the planet. There also beings who came here from other star systems to assist the controlling forces, so there are a mixture of various races here on the planet.

E: Was this also a necessity to generate the kind of energy that this transformation needs that it would draw from all of the galaxy to produce? I’m sensing that it is sort of like a thing that has to create a certain kind of dynamic to generate the transformation. So, rather than looking at the whole thing as a drama that is unfortunate because there was so much suffering, do we begin to look at this as a drama that has to do with the operation of energetic forces in creation?

C: Yes, you can look at it from any perspective you wish. It is the human being that creates the perspective.

E. OK. It is also for me very interesting that it feels as if we are writing a new story about who we are. We are creating a new collective myth, you could say, a truth that actually does fit a lot of the ways that we have expressed ourselves in the arts. We have been fascinated with this idea of Star Wars. We’ve been fascinated with this idea of the great battle of the light and the dark, as if it was always built into us and that this would come out as an actuality.

C: This myth is a reflection of the reality of the situation. I understand that we are at the beginning stages of completely new myth, a completely new belief system, a completely new paradigm that will go beyond that. I think 100 years from now nobody will worry about dark forces or even think about it any longer. It will be an obscure notion from the past–a long time ago, things like that happened, but they will be so beyond that. A completely new evolution will open for humanity that nobody will be bothered anymore about the troubled past of humanity. It is a birth of a new renaissance that is happening now. We are at such an early stage of the creation of this new myth that we are not able to comprehend where we are going.

E: Exactly. I totally concur with that from the information that I have worked with. You’ve said in some of your interviews that this is the last place where this dark energy has anchored in this galaxy, so when it is gone, when it is cleared from here, it’s gone. So, that is also a pretty strong mythic identity, to be holding the last place where this darkness exists, and when it is gone it is released from this whole galaxy. I have heard from people who channel that we are regarded as very heroic here on this planet because of what we have put up with. Is that a good way to look at it? This huge thing is way bigger than our little planet and its fate, allowing the whole galaxy to be free of this…

C: Yes, yes! It’s true. It’s true. And it’s not just as small planet. We are not just here by chance. We knew that we were going to go here for this particular mission. It was not anticipated it would be last the planet to be liberated. The plan was a little bit different but the reality changed and now we are on the planet that is the last planet to be liberated. So it is a very special place and we are in a very special period of our destiny. And, yes, we are heroes because what we do to form an opposition in the face of all this control is a heroic act. For everybody that is standing against this oppression, he or she is a hero in this space and time.

E: Do you want describe some of the activations and clearing of these portals that you’ve been working with and how we can also participate in that? That whole scenario of the blocked portals that kept good energies from flowing forth, like the Goddess energy, and how we clear them? I think that’s of interest to a lot of people.

C: It’s a process. Each portal that we activate brings us closer to the final goal of completely clearing the etheric plane. The Archons had invaded the etheric plane 25,000 years ago and were closing off one vortex after the other. This process was completed about 1,600 years ago when the Roman Catholic cults completely suppressed the Goddess energy on the planet. On each of those vortex points when we had temples of the goddess before there was a catholic church. This was the completion of the dark creed.  Then you know what happened; we had the dark ages, the Middle Ages. Then about 500 years ago the first Renaissance brought the beginning of the process of planetary purification. We have now reached a point in the last few years when we are in the final stages of that purification. Each of the portals we activate brings us closer to the final goal of complete liberation of the etheric plane. As soon as the etheric plane is liberated, extremely fast the physical plane is going to follow.  And then we are free.

E: Could you just talk about what these portals are? What is their dynamic? How would we know if we were living near one? What kind of energy is it that that we could discover or is it very esoteric to even try to understand that?

C: A dimension portal is a double vortex of energy that actually transmits energy between different dimensions.  Then the energy can be used. It is a neutral energy. You can use if for good purposes or somebody could use it for not-so-good purposes. When the portal is activated property, it can become a very strong, supportive vortex for the light. It can actually change the energetic signature of that area. It can improve the living conditions of the people, their well-being. This is the reason why we are going from place to place activating those portals. If we have a mass meditation on a certain specific date, that can trigger the opening of that portal, it can have a planetary global effect of improving the planetary situation.

E: Do you want describe the activation that is coming up on the 23rd [of November], the context of that date and the place that you’ve chosen to do the work?

C: It is actually the Shift of the Ages. It is the moment astrologically speaking that we are entering a new cycle. The old cycle did not end on December 21 last year as many people have realized. The actual turning point is now in November. It will not manifest outwardly as anything special but energetically speaking it will be the peak of transition.  From that point on the light forces will have much more power; they will have much more initiative on this planet and the dark forces will be on retreat from that day on. They will be in defensive from that day on. We have chosen Florence in Italy because we are grounding the energies of the new Renaissance, and Florence was the anchor point for the first Renaissance, where a process of planetary purification started about 500 years ago.  Now we are anchoring the same energy on a higher octave in the same place that will allow us to bring this new myth that we were speaking about, this new collective story that will not include the darkness.

E: It is a pretty exciting opportunity to be conscious of all this! How do you see all of us helping? I know you put on your website the time of a synchronized meditation and so on. Is that the best way to feel connected to this and make your presence felt for as many people we can reach as possible?

C: Yes. There are a few things that you can do. Number one is to join our weekly meditation group each Sunday, different time zones of course, but each Sunday it is happening around the world at the same moment.   The more people who will get into this, the more effect it will have. We not yet reached the critical mass, that’s why we don’t have the result we want. If we get more people, we will be more powerful. Then of course you can join our major planetary activation portals. For example, we had a peace portal activation on August 25. We had masses of people joining; we reached the critical mass. Just the video alone was seen by a quarter of a million people. You can see the results were very, very direct and very dramatic. We have prevented a military invasion in Syria as a result of the activation of the Peace Portal, so this was a huge accomplishment. If people participate in the following activations, the first on 23rd November and there will be more, then we can get more results. And the third thing that is very important at this time is the creation of event support groups. Event support groups are groups that meet physically once a week at least to hold the energy of preparation for the Event, to hold the energy of awareness of the Event, and when the Event happens those groups will serve as communication centers and will give advice to confused human population. There are many things that you can do.

E. Describe the Event again for those hearing this for the first time…

C: OK, I will describe this briefly. The first aspect of the Event is the reset of the financial system. The reset of the financial system will end the current imbalances that are one of the major sources of suffering on the planet. The new financial system will be transparent and fair to everybody. The second aspect of this reset is the arrest of the members of the controlling forces of the Cabal, of those people who were actually enslaving humanity for all those centuries. The third aspect of the Event is finally the truth will begin to be released through the mass media, truth about the planetary situation, truth about our history, truth about UFOs, about extraterrestrial contact, about free energy, about true physics, about everything–will be released finally to the mass population. There will also be the non-physical aspect of the Event, which will be a flash, the wave of energy from coming from the galactic central sun. Many people who are more spiritually aware will be able to feel that flash. That will begin a process of mass awakening that will go across humanity after the Event.

E: So, it is pretty safe to say that none of us will be the same after the Event.

C: None of us will be the same. It will be beyond our expectations.

E. It is so remarkable to hear this kind of information. I’m wondering, do you feel supported across the board from other psychic-type people and other people involved in all this supporting this whole scenario? I’ve looked around a lot to see how people are talking about things and I just wonder whether it is something that you feel is being effectively supported or do you feel it is this group that you’ve identified as putting it out. I’m floundering a bit here, but I just wonder how all this is seeming to you?

C: Well, you see, I create my own reality, and I just connect with people who are understanding this. Most people I am connected with have a similar perspective on this. I don’t have much contact with the general population who might not know about it. Of course, there are many people who are skeptical about this and those people who are skeptical will be more convinced, naturally, when things start to happen, when there will be physical evidence. Of course, most people will believe their own eyes. I would say to most people: wait and see what happens. I’m just giving information in advance so people are prepared; I’m not trying to convince anybody. I’m just presenting information because I have received it.

E: That’s true. That’s the essence of how it comes. The messengers come and here’s the message. It is another round of information that transforms us to learn a lot more about who we really are and how our roots go into other dimensions and what our potential future is. I’m finding it interesting to be among people who are aware of this and to not be able to look at the world that is being expressed around me, and people’s ideas about what they are going to do next summer and how they are going to do this and that. You sort of can’t go there any more when you know that this incredible change is imminent. It’s an interesting surreal life to lead. I imagine you are hearing that from other people, too.

C: Yes, yes.

E: Do you have any advice? For living in this kind of a time? Or just…

C: Just be in the now. Be in this moment. Of course you can make plans. It’s always in life like this that you can make plans and of course things will happen in completely unexpected ways.

E: And that’s the advice that we’ve all heard that applies to our life challenges. So much of what we think of as problems are things we think up in our head and haven’t happened yet, so now we are on this other side where we are looking at something that is really positive that’s coming and yet hasn’t quite manifested. I don’t want to be one of these people that talks about the timing of this, because I do understand [the dilemma]. I feel as a woman it is interesting to talk about time as something to be fulfilled, because if we are pregnant we know we are going to have a baby but we don’t know when, but we know we are going to have a baby. So I feel that this Event is in this language of it is definitely going to happen and the timing isn’t really ours to know, but the certainty of it is there within us. It is a sense that when everything converges to be in perfect coordination, then the thing will happen and it will be absolutely the right moment.

C: Exactly, exactly.

E: We are conditioned to think of linear time being sort of like the train schedule where we keep looking at our watches and saying, when is it going to happen? But it is not in that framework.

C: There is a certain moment when it will happen, but even if I would know it, I would not say it, simply because I would not give this information to the Cabal and of course, they are listening to this.  They don’t need to know.

E: They don’t need to know! Well, does it mean that they know all of this that we are talking about, that their portals are being cleared, that there are these dates? It doesn’t give them any benefit to know these specifics at this stage, does it?

C: You see, I have a very delicate situation. I can just release intel that gives more advantage to the light forces than gives to the dark forces. So there are things I cannot say. It is a very delicate balance. We are still not liberated yet. After that, it is no problem. I can say everything I know but not yet.

E: Do you want to describe a little bit more about the way the Resistance — you use this phrase compression breakthrough–that’s where your name Cobra comes from–and you’ve talked about how the compression is from the extraterrestrials on one side and the Resistance on the other. Do you want to describe that? So we can picture the Earth in ways we don’t usually do with the underground cities…

C: This planet is in a sandwich. There are light forces above the surface of the planet in the sky–the positive ETs–who are sending light toward the surface of the planet from above.  Then there is a resistance movement underground. All of these forces are holding the light below the surface and sending the light toward the surface. So the surface of the planet is in this compression. All of the darkness that was compressed on the surface needs to come out, because the light is constantly pressuring it to come out, so that it is processed and healed and removed. When the light from below meets the light from above at the surface, that’s the moment of compression breakthrough and that’s the moment of the Event. When this is happening it will be huge, energetically and physically, and everybody will be able to see it.

E: After the Event, what role do these forces play? The underground culture and resistance…will they become more visible to us? Are these boundaries going to be dissolved and will we have some awareness that this exists?

C:  Gradually, yes. They will not expose themselves directly. First they will just get in there through the mass media, but after sometime when humanity begins its awakening process, there will be direct contact.

E: Then the future of humanity, I gather, from everything I’m learning, is to have a completely different sense of what is real physically and to travel without airplanes and visit other star systems — all that…

C: Yes. Yes.

E: …everything we fantasize in our media. I think it is so interesting that something in us that was captured in the Star Wars movie always wanted this ability to go exploring and go beyond–I guess it is pretty true to call this the prison we have been locked up in–find out what is really going on outside.

C: We were in the prison for the last 25,000 years and now that the gates will open, we will be able to see what is outside.

E: I don’t know how to ask these some of these questions because they are so unusual…but could this have all gone another way completely 25,000 years ago?

C: It could. It could. Things could be different. There are many moments in human history, many key points, when this could go one way or the other.

E: It was just in these various present moments that a little tipping happened and it slid one direction?

C: Exactly.

E: Do we have anything to learn from this, looking back? Do we learn how to be a different kind of human now?

C: Yes. You see in those critical moments, those tipping moments, there were always individuals who were key individuals and those key individuals made choices, sometimes good choices and sometimes not so good choices. In 1995 there was a big possibility of a breakthrough but the key individuals made the wrong choices and that is why we are here almost 20 years later and still the Event didn’t happened. It could have happened in 1995. It could also have happened last year, in April or May 2012, if certain key individuals had made the right choices but they did not make the right choices. There are always certain moments, certain windows of opportunity, and in those crucial moment it is very important how the key people behave. What decisions do they make? What choices do they make? What actions do they take? That is very important.

E: Would these be people that had political power?

C: Not necessarily. You see, the real planetary situation is not decided by the presidents; it is decided by people from behind the scenes.

E: The Cabal and its script for controlling to planet…to me, it is preposterous that they ever thought they could succeed, just because to manage something on the scale that they wanted…Where would they have found the power to support that, because it was such a self-involved agenda, no spiritual energy behind it, no good in it? How could the Cabal have really believed in their power or were they just psychotically made wrong?

C: You see, their plan was created–the last phase of their plan was created–more than 200 years ago. At that time they had the support of many negative ET races throughout the galaxy, and that’s where their confidence came from. But now when those races are gone, they are still operating but they know they are on their last plans. They cannot count on any support from beyond this planet any more, and they know it. The top people in the Cabal know that and they are in panic because of this. Because they know the game is over.

E: You’ve described that there are a variety of ways that they are responding, that they know they can surrender, they can ask for forgiveness and so on and so on. Are we seeing the separation of the hard core from those who aren’t so deeply, darkly inspired?

C: Yes, there are many various responses, and yes, some of them have surrendered already and many of them will surrender in the future. And also the various factions have different tactics of how to cope with this situation. The Jesuits try to manipulate the situation in their own way; the Rockefeller-Illuminati faction is getting a little bit crazy with all this warmongering in Syria that happened this year, and the Rothschilds are just silent because they don’t want to be exposed too much in the limelight right now.

E: They must be aware that the financial reset is going to completely take all their power away.

C:  Yes, they are aware of that.

E: Do you think they believe it?

C: I would say they are afraid of it. They don’t believe it completely because it hasn’t happened in their own experience. They have generations of experience that they are the top of the food chain regarding money–almost at the top of the food chain–but they are afraid that something will change because they gather more and more evidence that things are going to change.

E: When you talk about the public arrests of these figures, is it going to include of some of these top dogs?

C: All of them.

E: Is that going to happen swiftly, all at once? We will be witnessing this over days?

C: It will be a global operation throughout the planet that will take maybe between one or three days.

E: Wow.

C: …for the key people.

E: Wow. That’s going to make some interesting television!

C: Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

E: For the people who are used to the action movies, they are going to see some action. Are they going to be taken to certain kinds of prisons? Where will they go?

C: They will be taken to prisons and they will have a right to have a fair trial because true things need to come out in a balanced way, so there will be no witch-hunts. Human beings will decide their destiny. Humanity will decide their destiny.

E: So, this is also why this preparation has taken so long, so many years, so that it would run flawlessly when the time came?

C: We don’t have a second chance. When the Event is triggered, it has to be done perfectly. It has to be done in near-perfect precision to insure the least amount of violence and loss of human life, so that the basic electricity, food-distribution

chains–all this needs to remain intact. It’s not an easy operation.

E: Here in America, will we be seeing it happen to the Americans that are involved or is it going to go around the world?

C: Everywhere.

E: Wow. That is just going to be staggering, it seems to me. Are some of these figures are going to be people that we have heard of? High-profile people?

C: Some of those people are in politics, but the topmost people are mostly in Black Nobility families and the Jesuits and are not are not public figures so much. There will be some very well-known names and some completely unknown names.

E: A lot of names have gotten thrown around over the years about who is part of this and who are the bad ones, but my sense has been that a lot of the most public figures, more politically high profile, they don’t strike me as having the kind of power that the Cabal leaders have had. That they are really more figureheads…

C: Exactly

E: They haven’t had the freedom of resisting them or they know the consequences of resisting them…

C: Exactly.

E: …but once they are released from that we will see their true character.

C: Yes. Many truths will come out. People will begin to speak finally freely about what they were involved in, and there are many people who were in the Cabal not because they wanted to but because they were forced to, and they will finally be free to talk about their experience and be healed.

E: It is phenomenal to imagine this happening so fast, but on the other hand it’s encouraging that something as huge as this can happen to completely turn around the misdirection that we’ve been involved in. I know that everyone who cares about the environment and the health of our food and our oceans–everything that has to do with supporting us–we’ve all been so shocked to see everything going in the wrong direction. The way that we’ll get help changing this, from the ET sources…are we going to be participating and learning from these beings or are we going to be just watching something happen like someone waved a magic wand?

C: No, it will be active participation. There are many technologies that were developed on the surface of the planet that were suppressed, and these will be the first that are released. And then scientists and engineers will learn from those ETs how to go beyond those Earth-based technologies. It will be a partnership; it will be cooperation. Humanity needs to learn to do this by themselves, of course with instruction and a loving guidance from the positive ETs, but humanity will have a very active role in its own future. Humanity will make the basic decisions, not the ETs.

E: That’s an encouraging thing for young people, that they would step right into this as what they will do with their lives to be part of this.

C: They were born for this. This is their destiny.

E: And the whole education system will be flipped over and made relevant, right? It won’t be all about training people to be in the corporate structures. Do you think that the long-term vision of humanity is to slide completely out of a currency monetary system and just recognize how they can share and not have it all organized by some version of money? A lot of people hope that it is the end of all this.

C: Yes. It’s very easy because with the available new technology it will be very easy to produce anything people need for their lives.  This is the basic reason why the money will become free, because people will not need it any more. They will have a replicator at home and they will be able to create out of etheric substance everything they will need, their food, everything they need for their physical existence. The perspective of people will go beyond the physical plane because when this is taken care of people will begin to ask, What’s more, What’s the real meaning of life? How can I evolve? What can I do?

E: This applies to the healing arts, too, that we will be shifted to a different whole way of understanding what it means to heal disease or injuries.

C: It will be a matter of reaching again the inner balance of the human being, because when a human being is in a state of balance, there is no illness possible.

E: So the first phase is a whole reset and rebalancing of the essential human, who is self-healing and self-evolving and self-expressing.

C: Of course the technology will support that healing process, but the focal point will be inner balance.

E: Wow. That’s probably a good way to wind this up this time. It’s been very fascinating to have this kind of conversation with you and I appreciate your making yourself available. If there’s anything else you want to add, that would be fine.

C: I would just say, do not give up hope. We are in a very exciting time, although it is quite challenging for many people. We have been born for this time, to make this final victory.

E: That’s true. I feel that way, too. Thank you very much.

C: You are welcome.

Cobra’s websites are 2012portal.blogspot.com and prepareforchange.net

The electronic version is posted here: https://timebandit15.wordpress.com/2013/11/17/conversations-with-cobra-chapter-one/.